SPEAKER_02 0:55

What's up, family folks, and people all over the world? What's up? Welcome back. I like to be here with you on Mondays, but this Monday, yo, I'm really psyched. One because we got some new listeners in Spain and in Mexico and near the house here in Manassas, Virginia. But this Monday is the Monday where my brother comes in and he takes over. You've met him before. Jafar has been here before, but this Monday is a special Monday. What's up, Jafar? I'm Joe.

SPEAKER_00 1:26

Yes, sir. It's a good day, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:30

Man, it is. It's always glorious to be here and share with our listeners across the land, locally, domestically, across the countries, and share the message of hope and uh empowerment and humanity and all the things that are relative and relatable. But we're here today to celebrate you, man. You have been an exquisite artist for many years, and you've got new music. Talk about what's happening in your world.

SPEAKER_00 1:55

I'm I'm so excited. I mean, a lot of people, you know, they follow me through the gospel years and through the swamp music blues, vibe I was rocking. Hold up, hold up. You're not gonna minimize that. You're just not gonna walk past that. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:10

So I'ma I'ma do it.

SPEAKER_00 2:11

I'ma hold me accountable.

SPEAKER_02 2:12

Yeah, because you I don't, yeah, I know. I got you. So, so we're gonna talk about very briefly as a as a story to pull this all together, you know, your time as a gospel artist as Izzy, the urban psalmist. And that was the introduction and the beginning of our working relationship. Yeah. Um, when you had that release, uh, what was that? Uh In All of You? Yeah, in all of you, yeah. Yeah, the single. Yeah, yeah, man. That was it. Yeah, I almost thought I forgot, but I did forget. That that put you on the map, man. That that took you everywhere as a new artist. Uh, you were embraced, people loved you, you had great opportunities. We had a chance to go to London.

SPEAKER_00 2:58

Yeah, we did. That was amazing too.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

Yeah, we did some uh stand in London about a week and a half in London, different venues throughout Manchester and uh different uh surrounding cities of London proper and um the states here and there, stellars. I had a chance to really get the full gamut of that particular platform. But then from there you transitioned and started doing some, I think, EDM music, correct?

SPEAKER_00 3:24

Yeah, yeah. I signed with um after I went through the that physical stint of the spinal issue and stuff. I got signed in the midst of my battle. Like I got signed uh to Paul Blair, who's uh DJ White Shadow. And you know, those that know him, he's he's over Gai Guy's greatest hits, you know, selling 30 million, 40 million, uh, for applause and all of these other records.

SPEAKER_02 3:46

Man, I'm gonna stop you again because I love the humility. I love that you scan through it, and I love that you just rush to it. But what happens is a lot of people don't realize that working in the music industry or being a creative is not just what you see at the Grammys on the stage or what you see on socials and what you see, all the hype. It's all the work that goes into creating music, crafting music, uh crafting talents and vocals that are either in the credits, you know. We used to buy the album back in the day and buy it to read the credits and see whose name was in background, singing, engineering, and associated in the shout-outs and thank yous.

SPEAKER_03 4:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:25

Um, but you've been an integral part of a lot of those creations that we may never know about as a consumer or just from the face value, but come on, man, open that up. I mean, can you flex just a little bit? No, it's hard.

SPEAKER_00 4:40

It's hard for me to be on me. Like, so I mean, the I'm honestly, I think it's closed down now, but even having the the chance to work at like record plan is some of the greatest spots that I dreamt of in LA, you know, from meeting and being in the same rooms, sitting up there looking at Breezy down the hallway, you know, cutting his stuff, and we're sitting there writing and and and working around, submitting for projects. I had a chance to uh hang out. When I first got signed, my biggest thing, even to this day, that really made my my world was I always placed Dallas Austin on my uh my my dream board or whatever, even back in the day. Okay. In the first place that I went because of uh Naz, man. Naz is a homie of mine, longtime friend. Uh, but she, powerful writer. She absolutely uh she flew me in. That was the first place I went when I got signed, and I was rocking out with Dallas Austin, like for two weeks and picking up a lot of stuff, you know, learning from casts like Dan Farber and working with Chronic and uh DJ Wizard, you know, all of these DJs, you know, uh Pitbull's DJ, uh DJ Phenom. And like I said, DJ White Shadow, I just had a chance to meet a lot of people that in the gospel arena, I had no chance, no bridging factors to get me there, nothing. And just to watch God take me through one of the craziest times of my life with that spinal injury, and right coming out of that is right when I got the call from Nas, which literally changed the trajectory of, you know, it gave me my second win.

SPEAKER_02 6:15

I like that.

SPEAKER_00 6:16

I mean, yeah, it's been it's been a whirlwind. I'm not gonna lie, from the gospel days to now, and being a shadow worker means it sometimes you're not listed, but you get the check. Sometimes, you know, this opportunity leads to something bigger. Yeah, yeah, seriously. Seriously. So just having a chance to have stuff on shows like the uh this the uh show that was on Fox, it's now on Netflix or what's uh Lucifer getting a uh Oh yeah, you know, yeah, I got a The Devil's on the losers. Yeah, devil's on the losers on that. And then it was good. Listen, that's him, yeah. Pitbull, uh uh the commercial that we did for Ford was actually the number one in that year for its category. So it was beautiful to see even things that I did on the side starting to get legs and take me places where, you know, ah, Lord, it was like a new circle of beers, all of that stuff, and yeah, it was it was wild. I remember though, one thing, one thing that changed, because we we gotta now that I'm delving into the music, dealing in the mindset, uh some people may get offended too. One of the first things that Paul said to me when he signed me, he said, is keep that gospel shit out of here. I said, yo, like, yo, what do you mean?

SPEAKER_02 7:28

This is how I was raised and bred.

SPEAKER_00 7:30

Yeah, this is what I was like. He was like, no, no, no, no, no. What I mean is how you used to approach it and everything like that. He said, Listen, um, how many people that you thought you'd have to go through to even get to meet? Somebody like me. I said, dude. He was like, now how many of them can call my phone? Yeah. I was like, Yeah. He's like, so leave that outside because I've seen it and no offense, but y'all will fight for 100% of one record. And he said, Look, is I want you to be a team player, and I'd rather split a record 10 ways for 10 placements than to be struggling off of one that nobody calls me back to because it's not linked to anybody. It's not so you can't even tap into their circle of friends because you're not working with anybody. And it changed my world, my life. I don't have to be the one to sign the artist, I don't got to be the one to do every song on this or that. And yeah, so it did. It changed how I look at the industry and even how I approach my own craft, man.

SPEAKER_02 8:30

Well, you know, that is that's kind of indicative of how networking really works. You know, the challenge with certain groups and communities of um creatives is that some of them just always clamoring to be next, to be seen, to be heard, and and that's fine. But in the art of networking, you know, you meet people and make genuine and really nice connections, not because you're trying to extract anything. You're just trying to make a connection because the idea is that the person you meet may not have what you need, but it could be the fourth person down. But because you've trashed them, you'll never make the connection, the third person down, much less get connected to where you want to be. And, you know, we both grew up in gospel spiritual music. And so we've seen, you know, that kind of mentality and that hunger and um disloyalty across the board. You know, we are more than just the church. I'm gonna say that. We are spiritual beings and we exist in the spirit. The spirit moves upon everybody. Uh, the church is not a monopoly, it doesn't belong to anybody, you know. The spirit moves freely throughout the world. And what I appreciate about what I've seen you do, how you have pivoted. And every round, every reiteration, your your gifting, your ability has only just grown and expanded. And I would be remiss if gospel was the only genre that had a chance to experience you.

SPEAKER_00 9:58

Well, wow, brother. Well, I'm I'm grateful for that. Um, and even just looking at, no, really, man, like the reflections, because you've had a they don't realize how much you've had a big part of that. Like, yes, we understand Sir Wall, this is this is some this monstrous movement that you got going. They they still, there's stuff in history behind the scenes that really do equip you to be the one that speaks. Like, this, this, this man right here, guys, this is the reason he transformed even the way that I moved and everything. See, he he talked about, you know, London and stuff. He was right there with me. He was more than a tour manager. He was more than just a project manager for me. And so there were things that he taught me, there were things I trust this man that even if I got a little uppity and ego to slam it against the wall and say, look here, my guy, you need to calm down. And so, being that he had that space with me, man, I have to thank you for a lot of the way that I do see things. Based on our mutual experiences, just being around and the things that we discovered. Because, you know, a lot of people didn't realize I wasn't officially even on the label anymore. Really, the last few moments that I had as Izzy. We were traveling still, though. We were still. Yeah, you were getting it, man. And it was so they didn't even realize that, yo, he's no longer in the marketplace. And I was like, I'm gonna go be a dad. My life is changing, you know. Go be a husband and a father.

SPEAKER_03 11:24

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:25

And it was like, okay, I see how things are, I'm dipping. And that's really what happened. But, you know, I couldn't stay going long because I was especially going to LA. Like, yeah, as musical as I was, there was no way, because it's you're always around it. There's no way that you're not gonna dip back into it. Yeah, so you know, I even I have everybody to think around me, uh, just for equipping me and studying to, I guess, push me in that area so that I don't let it go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:52

But you know what? I found out working with you as a talent, what I always thought was impressive, and I told you this, and it could be, I'm sure it's your makeup, I'm sure it's your your military experience, but you always took the instruction and you course correct right on the spot. I remember your first performance, we were in Miami, and it was your single, and you were just like, I was watching you because it was my first live experience with you, and I watched how you handled the mic and where you stood, and your body language, regardless of what your voice was doing, was that man, I'm over this already. And I remember talking to you when you came off the stage. I was like, this is your introduction, this is your single, and you're gonna have to sing it until you're absolutely gone from this realm. So get used to it, get happy with it. If it's too high, find a way around those notes, but still make the impact that people have become to love the single. I remember that. I was like, okay, this is what you do. Your first verse, leave it on the mic stand. Remember that? Second verse, take it off.

SPEAKER_00 13:00

I was mad because I was like, I'm the urban psalmist. They call me the urban psalmist, and I keep having to do this traditional song. I'm squalling and and and out. I had to compete with myself because of how I delivered the record in the studio every time live. I had to do those doo-doo doo doo do do all of that scatting and riffing. I was like, oh my gosh, I wanted to groove, I want to sit back in it. Like, you remember how that joint hit me when I put that Ty Lib Kwali uh joint at the end of All This Love, and just that was like, that's what I wanted to be, you know, and it was like it was so hard to be like it's with you there.

SPEAKER_02 13:34

You know what I'm saying? We had to get you there. Like, let's let's pull them in. This traditional track, which was an amazing track in all of you, is what people love. So now you gotta capture them, you gotta build a relationship with them to walk them into these other expressions of your music. And so you put that in place, and over time, when we got to the more urban tracks that you were you were vibing, people were able to consume and digest them because they had fallen in love with your expression, your heart, and the artistry of Izzy. And since then, you have taken that, hey man, you have you've gone to the stratosphere. Talk about you know there was this transition where you resurfaced as swamp.

SPEAKER_03 14:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:18

Now, swamp was for me, man. You know what? I'm gonna be honest, swamp probably was the sound and the aggression that it did before in the Izzy style. Because Swamp was now mature, you were very aware, and you were not afraid to vocally challenge yourself where you were a little timid as you were growing as Izzy. Yeah, yeah. And I was listening like, what?

unknown 14:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:50

We had a chance to travel with that too. We had the chance to travel with Swan.

SPEAKER_00 14:53

We did good, we did good. That that oh my gosh, what was that? The Roots um Oh yeah, the Roots Festival up in um man PA. They said what? Well, they said we were the uh we got voted the number one band at that time. And I remember we were there were some things that happened behind the scenes, guys, and we was like, uh, so I remember I was so mad that we we pulled the plug early. We were like, nope, we're we're we're dipping, we're out. And it was just a lot of things that we encountered, but we were still considered one of the top bands of the festival.

SPEAKER_02 15:22

Yeah, people undermined or undermining your ability because they had never heard of you and wanted to judge you. And and it was a it was I I believe it was probably racial. It was a number of things because you were unknown artists in that established genre, but it doesn't mean it didn't mean that you didn't have the goods. And so we fought for you. We got you on the platform, and we played every platform and every show and venue they had for us at the time, and it was a great impact, um, full band. They are exquisite. We had a chance to do uh oh the uh Pride in DC and some other platforms, just this significant platforms that put you in a broader scope and uh much you more universal and international view. Where are we now with what you're doing?

SPEAKER_00 16:10

Well, the beauty in this is right now. So the one thing, because a lot of people didn't even realize that I'd produced even on an RV project. They did not understand it. I produced like over 95% of that. You know what I'm saying? Me, Alex Timer, um, Jean-Paul McGee, like we we lent our, you know, our minds and and did everything. But, you know, it uh I had to switch up. The hardest thing when I went and crossed over was not being able to do five-part harmony here. Only doing two or three-part harmony, because no, this is a pop track. There's an EDM, no harmonies at all. Hey, bro, it's a rock track. What are you doing? We don't need tech six. Stop all of that. Hey, my guy, this joint is supposed to be about lollipops in in candies because it's for this cartoon. And you sitting up here being deep and philosophical because I was so used to the gospel, you know, trying to like read, you know, and so I had to relearn, I had to break down and rebuild. And so it took me a long time though to get it back. Okay. So I was doing all that mainstream stuff and all of that, but I didn't have a chance to truly be in my music bag. But I was soaking it all up though. I was soaking it all up because I was learning new genres, new feels, and then I got into genre bending on the low in the basement, and I started developing, you know, my ear and my style. And it wasn't until um, yeah, I'll go ahead and jump in. It wasn't until my diagnosis that brought me to this point where they were like, hey my guy, you get mad because of this. Hey, my my guy, you do this because of this. Hey, you failed theory, but can hear all of this music because of this. And it was like, yo, you're literally a level one musical genius, autistic dude. And where that takes us now is I've been forced over this last year, six months to a year, on accepting myself. And it wasn't the self-diagnosis, you know, I went through the whole, the whole thing, the whole gimmick. And um, the guy literally, we laughed, quick joke, we laughed because the guy was like, you know, we could have stopped and you explaining how you were in third, fourth grade. I said, What? I went through my whole life. He's like, dude, so you really went to school dressed like young Sheldon? And I bust out laughing because I used to wear my Sunday's best in school. And it wasn't because I was trying to look jerchy or nothing. It was just because, in my mind, that was my best. You know what I'm saying? That was your expression. So, yeah, so he was like, that's a telltale sign of the autistic kid in class. I was like, wow. He was like, Yeah, that fashion designer at four years old. Oh, yeah, he's paying attention to color, texture, and all of that stuff. She's paying attention to that. Yeah, that's that's the kid. I was like, wow. So it allowed me to completely unmask, even in my music. And I was able to be everything that I am: the weird guy, the eclectic guy, the guy that can do traditional, the guy that can go Afrobeat. So what I decided to do is I took like three months, started developing these tracks, and they were just coming in order. And they were some of the most, you know, eclectic, feeling free, but yet still keeping that balance where somebody could gravitate to it and start feeling it. So I was really, really focused on my mission through this and being myself completely.

SPEAKER_02 19:26

Interesting that all that has taken place and elevated you and expanded you as the talent that you are, which takes us right to the track, be not afraid. Yeah. You know, it's like you faced all of that, and a lot of times people use those as a crutch, not to go forward or to stop or to undermine the work, but you use all of it as fuel to create and color the tapestry of who you are, and and we hear it and feel it in all the work you do, not just the work you do for yourself, but your role here in the show. You know, the sound of the show, the production of the show, the vibe of the show, the way we collaborate. And and and I gotta say, you know, to the world, I'm grateful when I hear my vision alive.

SPEAKER_00 20:10

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:12

You know, it is something beautiful. And again, you know, the show is about being human and these experiences we didn't think we needed to have, but somehow in the short term or immediate or long term, they show the value. It's like because I've experienced this, now I'm prepared for that. And that is what you have brought to the platform of Funky Funky But Chic. You you helped me not be afraid of who I've always been, to find my singular voice among many voices in the world. You know, my background in radio, producing radio here in the DC area where I'm from, and just moving forward in other facets of life, but I realize along the way there's something I have to say. There's something that I need to get out to the world because of my personal experiences. But let's get to be not afraid. Take us into that.

SPEAKER_00 21:03

Be not afraid. Um, they'll notice once they start reading even the title list that I'm kind of saying something. You know what I mean? And so the be not afraid is literally even me encouraging and being a mirror to my world. Like, listen, this is who you are. Look at those blemishes. You see that right there? That scar right there is actually what's equipping you to even talk right now because the perspective that it provided you to speak and be everything you need to be in this moment. You see this? Don't be afraid of that. Don't be afraid of this. And when you approach the void of yourself, even in the deepest parts of your soul, understand that even the darkness is parts of you that you're not even willing to accept sometimes. And so be not afraid. Step into it, step into it, and be it. And you understand it's literally the platform for the proving. You're not gonna be set up. You know what I mean? You're really not, you're not. So that's what this. And so yeah, uh yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and press play on it, but you'll be able to hear, you'll be able to hear where I'm going. Ah, here we go. Be not afraid. I live by that. If I'm not enjoying myself while I'm creating it, then because that transfers, you know what I'm saying? So I really do hope. I hope that took y'all on a journey like it did when I was creating it, but oh gosh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:33

Man, I've been doing it for a couple weeks, and I'm just like, man, I played in the office and I let it play, and then I play it in the car, man. It is this and again, I think what's really interesting and a and and a proof of concept for me is that I know you. You're my brother. We have been in tight spaces and we have maneuvered through a lot of heavy moments and and celebrated some great moments as well. And I still feel like I don't know your stuff. Meaning, it's still it still impacts me. You know what I'm saying? I'm not I don't take you for granted. I don't take the work, I don't take the familiarity with the work, I don't take the ability to do the work. I mean, we sit here and we create the show, and people don't know that, but we'll sit and we'll have an idea, or I'll have three or four or five words, and in like three or five minutes, he's like, brother, listen, listen. It's a whole track, and I'm like, oh my god, how did that happen? I understand the genius of you, but I never take it for granted, and I'm grateful that I don't because it is ever changing, evolving, it's lifting, and it's reaching people, not just out of your own ability, but you're able to embrace and transmute what I bring you and spit it out so that it represents what's actually in my heart and mind. And that's that's that's particularly vulnerable for me because you take what you do and you drop it on people, and people just take it and run, or hold on to it, or bargain with it. But very few are able to bring life to it.

SPEAKER_00 27:18

Yeah. But you know, I think coming come to terms with this world, you know, we understand our place in it. And I don't expect everybody to get it, but I do expect as I'm projecting my best and even my best for them, that in some point, in some way, in some form, that they'll get it. And so it just helps me to just release what I'm giving. Just release, you know, and whatever the purpose is for that, for that person, it'll meet them where they're at. Um, because yeah, I I, you know, with the long, the long roads that we've been through, sometimes you're gonna have to walk alone.

SPEAKER_02 27:54

And it's cool. You know what? Walking alone is a good thing. You know, people present it as if you are in exile and you've done something to find yourself unsupported alone. But those are times when you're building character, you're facing you and understanding what you really stand for. All the noise and the chatter and the voices around you. I mean, that that's what it is, but it's no clarity in that because most times you're around people who don't have a clue themselves about themselves. So they certainly can't help you guide you to who you are.

SPEAKER_00 28:25

And the only thing they're doing most of the time is offering their own reservations based on their outward look on what you're going through. So they really don't. Especially when you got people that are not even there. It's like asking people that are fans of music to really respond to the process of creating the music. You will end up in an argument all day, you know, in the studio while you're recording, if if you're dealing with that type of thing. Because, you know, people they'll be responding from what they like, what this, this, this, this, but don't even know how you get there.

SPEAKER_02 28:56

Yeah. Or their experiences, which could be limited and in a box or regional, and they just don't have an ear and experience to see beyond, which I think is important while you gotta walk the path alone. Alone.

SPEAKER_00 29:09

Yeah. Sometimes it's yeah. You gotta know who you are.

SPEAKER_02 29:13

Sometimes it's best. I've enjoyed I've enjoyed more alone time in healing and knowing myself than I have in the crowds. And I've spent my days in crowded rooms and planes and trains and automobiles and strangers' cars here and there, but the alone time is when I've been able to kind of transmute and recalibrate and step into who I who I be. Let's hear that or walk the path alone. Walk the path alone. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:34

We may not like it, we may not enjoy it all the time, but it's got its purpose, and there's sometimes along your own path, you're gonna have to do like the prophet told me when I was 20-something years old. Hey, is later on, you're gonna have to be okay with going in the sacred room by yourself and closing the door behind you, and then bring the information back because everybody's not gonna get what you do.

SPEAKER_02 32:58

Yeah, man, I think anybody doing any significant work and any platform in the world has to have the pruning time, the alone time to strip away, to rebuild, you know, to reconstitute all those things that have to happen. You just cannot be always giggling and hanging out and always active and and getting clarity when you're trying to speak to a world and help elevate and unleash the power in other people and and and and and improve their quality of living and sharpen their focus and perspective of how they should should exist in the world for their own highest good, not for your intention, but to help them calibrate that. You you gotta have a place where it just we ain't just doing the regular stuff. We ain't talking about fits and having such a fuss and tizzy about things. We gotta get some will. We gotta, we gotta what's this void stepping?

SPEAKER_00 33:55

Yeah. It's like because so many times we all get caught up in our own loops and we don't realize because we're afraid to step into the unknown. So we would rather just run this thing up to the limit, then turn around and just try to correct a little bit. Then run it up to the limit again. It turn around and try to oppose to sometimes, hey, hey, hey, hey, you got wings. Oh no. Well, if you got wings, I dare you to step off that ledge. What is a fall to somebody that's got wings?

unknown 34:23

No.

SPEAKER_02 34:24

It's a step, really.

SPEAKER_00 34:26

It's not even a fall. They're not gonna fall. They're not gonna fall. They're not even built to fall. But if you never take the leap, you'll never know that. So sometimes that leap, believe it or not, especially in the middle of your drama and all the stuff you're tired of dealing with in order to change the cycles, period, you're gonna have to jump into the void, yo. So here we go. Now I love this one. I love this one. I ain't gonna lie. I wish I could get kindred with somebody on this junk. This junk goes. Anyway, void stepping, void stepping. Let's get it. When that bass like a go for that. Yeah, yeah. That's void stepping, that's void stepping. Y'all gotta step into that void, don't be afraid. Be not afraid, eh? Be not afraid of the voice. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_02 38:09

Um, so listen, we we're not gonna act like it's not happening.

SPEAKER_00 38:14

What?

SPEAKER_02 38:15

With the exquisite vocals that you have.

SPEAKER_00 38:21

You ain't singing. Nah. That's the kicker. But the funny thing is, all the voice that you are hearing is me. I'm using different tools and different things to shift my voice and everything, because a lot of y'all don't know. Your boy actually just went through a throat cancer scare, and I've not been able to sing, sing out for like probably about a year now. So what I was doing was I just said, I'm gonna use the human voice as an element, a musical.

SPEAKER_01 38:49

As the instrument it is.

SPEAKER_00 38:50

Yeah. And let's be real, let's be real, let's be real. Sometimes most of us are feeling the song most when we don't even know the words, but we're in the shower, you know, me and go. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 39:04

That's my rocket. That's my rocket writing.

SPEAKER_00 39:06

And I've been in I've been in settings where as the writers, we in the writing camp and we're filling, because we get in there and we'll do top lines, is what we call it. Those are the melodies that you're falling and you're right, you're following, and you're writing. So there's sometimes the melody alone is so fire that you're messing it up with the words, you know what I'm saying? So I said, let me just do that. I'm gonna go ahead, I'm not gonna squall, I'm not gonna do this, I'm gonna craft it where it's a you know, accent to what I'm already doing. So that's why you hear all of that going on. But I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. The next one, when you smile, that's the one I love the most because of you you'll hear why. But I love just how the vocals and how everything was able to follow me. Um, but yeah, this one, when you smile, it's like this. So many times in life, we're talking about these cycles and stuff, right? Imagine yourself running on a track and looping, looping, looping, looping, loop. So when you find yourself, because everything is residual, alright? Just like when you work uh between the first and 15th, you go, you collect your check. You work about it, you get your check. Everything is residual like that as well in the meta and has energy works and manifestation. So the best time for you to shift your attitude is when you find yourself in the firefight. Because how you've been acting, what you've been aligning to for two weeks, two months prior is what got you here. So the best thing for you to do is shift, and you'll be surprised. Studies show just the smile alone, forcing a smile even for 12 seconds, is enough to actually raise your frequency. So when you smile, you'll watch even how you're feeling. You'll watch how things kind of, it's not even a gimmick. It literally is like a cheat code in life. So yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 40:54

It's all the things. It's all the things that we all have. We try to supersede, but it's very natural, it's already, it's already in the earth, it's already in us, and it's being human. Let's smile. Hit it, hit it, brother. I think that's my favorite today. I think that yeah, yeah, I think I'm gonna have to put that in a different rotation today.

SPEAKER_00 44:24

This is good work, man. Well, thank you, brother. There was another reason why I chose no lyrics. Because I really wanted to be universal. As far as I'm concerned, my walk tells me to go you there for. So it doesn't mean I'm waiting for people to come to me, right? So I wanted to meet them where they were at. And a lot of times it makes the genre the genre. It's not just the instruments of choice, the textures, the different frequency responses and instruments and things like that. It's the lyrics. It's the content that, you know, the frequency that this thing is carrying. The coding.

SPEAKER_01 44:56

It's more than content, it's intent. Very intentional, you know.

SPEAKER_00 45:00

Exactly. And we know you can look it up YouTube and get lost down the rabbit hole, but there are coders. There's people that code. Uh they code for good reasons, they code for bad reasons, they code for this when it's songwriting, whether it's movies, whether it's poetry, and you know, whatever. It's it's literally communicating this stuff. But I chose to literally code for life all through this. So that's why I don't know if you could tell. You could kind of fill the records in a way, because I'm literally speaking over your life. I don't want to give up too much, but as you know, I'm programming and I'm doing, I'm literally coding my way in so that I can help somebody and meet them where they're at. Sometimes the words will block them. You know, like now, I can't even let my son listen to regular radio because of the subject matter. You know what I'm saying? Because of the words and all of that. So I said, let me go ahead and meet my people where they are and usher in that energy. So that's what it's all about. That's what it's all about. But this, yeah, that's another thing too.

SPEAKER_01 46:02

I appreciate that with you.

SPEAKER_00 46:03

Oh man, I have to include everyone. It's not that any of us are better than anyone, but some of our purposes, some of our divine design concerning our lives just includes everyone.

SPEAKER_01 46:14

It does.

SPEAKER_00 46:15

And we've got to mirror that back. But that's the reason why, like, the final cut that I'm introducing is there, it's like, go your own way.

unknown 46:22

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 46:23

I don't care what it is. And I get in trouble all the time because I'm like, yo, don't get so caught up in the books where you only go as high as that author when he wrote it.

SPEAKER_03 46:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:33

Because that dude moved on too. Look at his next book, look at his next book. And so it's like, yo, and we even when people walk up to me, oh, well, Confucius says, yo, I honestly don't even want to hear the verses. I need you to speak from the actual, from the perspective, not of it, where you can tell me then what does that mean for you and what you're communicating to me. You know what I mean? So go your own way. Don't be afraid to go your own way. Even if you don't got a point of reference, the reason why you started this path and that inspiration that even hit you in the first place, it's gonna speak right back to you. That ebb and flow is gonna run right back on that shore and catch you when you needed it most. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. So everybody, I'm encouraging you. Go, brother, go. I'm encouraging you. Some of y'all got ideas for books you ain't touched at. Some of y'all even got recipes for bakeries that you literally could be cooking up stuff, and that's taking over your jobs. There's things that are in you that you gotta trust. And I'm gonna tell you, like my old uh middle school teacher used to tell me, I don't care if it's underwater basket weaving. You better do it with all that you got. Don't call it nothing else. Don't get up here doing music and it's calling it. Nah. Just be that and be everything that you can be there. And that thing is rich. It touched me. So go your own way because the world needs you. Musicians out there, creators, they don't need y'all imitating. Innovators can't be imitators. You can't. We gotta find new ways to reach the masses, and my lastly, because I gotta speak on this, even with AI. AI is a massive, wonderful tool, but it can only rehearse the results. It can only keep going over what's already been put out there. So what does that mean? That means the creators gotta keep coming up with great ideas.

SPEAKER_02 48:23

Yeah, and it's not artificial intelligence, it's ancient intelligence. It's been in the earth realm, it's been around as long as there has been creation. It's new to you, but it's old to our souls. Hit that track, brother.

SPEAKER_00 52:29

I love how that ends in that groove. It's so unassuming, but yeah. I wanted you to feel the struggling thought, the wrestling with thought. Then I wanted you to, you know, feel that that rescue that happens, and then the rejoicing at the end. None of this is not, it's not for not y'all. None of it.

SPEAKER_02 52:49

Um wow, yeah, you yeah. From from from our struggle, our pain, our loss, our rejection, insecurities, uncertainty, embarrassment, failure, derailment. The whole reason that this platform exists is to empower people to go their own way, to be exactly who they are now, not in the future, not what you aspire to be, uh top-selling artist or number one author, but to put who you are out into the world. Allow the people to embrace it, resonate with your followers, they will find you, your tribe will find you. Stop taking the time to try to be perfect or to be what you see already in the market. Sometimes there is not a blueprint for who you are and what you're doing. You just gotta do it. You have to believe, only you need to believe. No one else really needs to believe. It's cool when they do, and it's helpful when they do, but only you need to believe and do what you need to do, and that is the premise of all of this. This moment, this time. Brother, why is it so important for you to even get this information out to us?

SPEAKER_00 54:13

Well, I think I'm looking at the state of the world, and I've got a different take on it. We we a lot of people that have been following me, they know about you know my near-death experience, but I'm putting into work um what I learned while I was awake. And this is a house of mirrors, and I can't judge even wage war with somebody else who's also a reflection of God. And if I'm looking at them and I'm like, if I were you, I'd be no nigga, you'd be doing exactly what they were doing because you'd have to learn from the same process, bro. And then when you really look at that, how can I wage war with that if I'm understanding that they too are an extension of God in their own walk? Yeah, that means we're just fighting ourselves for no reason. How can we win? How can we win? Like they say, ain't no hate like Christian love. Yeah, oh God. Man, we quick with that. And then still say, but they'll know where Christians buy are love. What are you calling love, you know? And so to me, love is more than just some vulnerable feeling that keeps you open, it's also the most amazing weapon and remedy.

SPEAKER_02 55:16

Yeah, and it's more than just chatter, it is definitely action and investment to it, and it is it's not a duty, and you know, because you say you love me with your mouth, but your heart is far from all those things. We we those are the experiences that we didn't know we needed.

SPEAKER_00 55:31

Yeah, and bro, like I'm not afraid to say it, like even what I'm a member of. I'm I'm I'm a part of a sacred, you know, group of people that literally I can't even I couldn't even take my kid to the park and let him play without at least trying to cover every child there. Yeah, make sure there were no ambulance on the way, make sure everybody was just as far as energy. Cover everybody, intercede everybody there. Now you can go play. So looking at that's the work. That's the work, that's the mission. So not just the people I know or prefer, but the people I'm my my burden is is much larger, it's global. That's it. That's why I'm literally doing this. I'm not doing this for fame, I'm not doing this for gain. I'm literally doing this so that I can be a divine mirror through these works and through empowering me on to maybe help somebody. Because if a song is making you not slit your wrist tonight simply because go your own way has that coding on it, then God bless you. Let's go. You don't need to know what verse, you don't need to know a denomination, just come with me for a second. And I think this is what we're all called to be, but a lot of us may not have come into this place in our walk already, but we're getting there. Everybody's awakening, and I'm so grateful for that because I'm a I'm grateful right now. I can say what I said, and a lot of people actually understand me. Absolutely, but I can see the reflections of people waking up, that's why I'm doing it, for the healing of the land, for the synergy and oneness, for the understanding of energy, for the feeling of energy. Because it's hard for you to deny the move, the flow, the the priesthood, energy, whatever you call it, when you're sitting there with results.

SPEAKER_02 57:15

Yeah, I um that's that's powerful because we we really just talked it out. We talked about our experiences that brought us here. Literally being alone and and stepping into the void and not being afraid, all those things, because we face the challenge, we got the instructions so that we can take the mission out to the people.

unknown 57:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:36

What's your takeaway? You know, I love a good old takeaway for my folks. What you got for us when we roll out of here today?

SPEAKER_00 57:42

The takeaway, I think for me, is just allowing people to like unmask themselves to to be themselves, to understand how much they bring to the table, to not devalue their own ideas, to understand, like even that saying, you want to get to know God, get to know that that mirror's reflection real good. Then you'll understand even how he's working, but the link that you're you're you're showing. There's no missing link. You're the link between divinity and your reality. And all of those things are necessary if you're fully gonna move out of manifestation and understanding exactly who you are. So here, this project is simply a mirror through frequency, music. Uh so that maybe you can get look, Dick, that cosmic grooviness, baby.

SPEAKER_02 58:30

That's what we're here for, man. To empower you, to entertain you, to challenge you, to provoke you, uh, to be with you as our brothers and sisters near and far. Thanks so much for tuning in today. I love my brother. I love you too. Oh, sure. Yes, man. Sir Wall, as they call him. I I think there we go. But we're all things, and I'm great, you know what? I'm really grateful as we go. I'm really, I'm really grateful that we have tapped into this moment because I think we talked about it this before. Coming up as younger creatives, you know, I remember being in an atmosphere where people would really just dig on you if you did too much. And I used to do a lot because I could do a lot and I was good at a lot. And at some point I stopped doing as much because I didn't like to be talked about or joked in the hallways. People talk about you, but they're still asking you to do things. And then one day I realized I can and I will. And I won't be restricted by what people think or say, because they're still benefiting from me. You know, if it's too much for you, then it ain't for you. And I'm good. Just because you don't get it, don't mean I don't got it. I'm not gonna, I'm not proving myself anymore. I'm living in the I am phase of my life.

SPEAKER_00 59:47

And lastly, people that are trying to find their way, you'd be shocked how much just surrendering to the moment will even introduce you to your team, to the people that you've been trying to align with. Like already, like I this was volume one that I let you guys know about. Volume two is coming like in another four to six months. And already my my faith walk has allowed me to, I've I've even worked with a Hall of Famer writer on the next upcoming one, you know, and and work with people that I used to used to mentor me or now like coming. So you'd be shocked once it's real. Oh, that's time to call your friends. You know, the time when you're moving out and you're being yourself the most, it don't be afraid of that space. I'm trying to tell you, it really is leading you somewhere. Just get started.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:34

Just get started. You can get better later. You know, just get started. Just just stop all the planning and the hype. And like I said it, I've said it in the shows in the past. Thinking about doing it, ain't doing it. Talking about doing it, ain't doing it. Planning about doing it, ain't doing it. And even praying about doing it, ain't doing it. Do it, do it now. Get into it, make it happen. You got what you need to move forward. We're coming back and we'll be here next week. We got uh more of volume one, you're here throughout the show, and when volume two, we're dropping that. This is a place that you have a home, brother. This is this is your space too. I I appreciate you yielding to me and supporting me and and staying in the background. But you know, if I'm gonna talk about it, I'm gonna talk about how help me be who I am. You know, this is all my creation, all my mindset, all my ideas. But when I collaborate with you, they begin to reverberate and you have other ideas and you color them, color, color them differently. And I'm grateful that I can trust you to bring it to you and you bring life to it and not just um commentary, not just your way of thinking, not just your perspective. I I don't need that. I know who I am. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:52

And I and I honor you, King Brother, just for that. Because it makes me want to answer back as myself to not dumb down the work that I'm doing, just to make sure I compliment where we are, brother.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:04

We have been in the wings way too long, and whether or not people are gonna make space for us or grant us opportunities, we can create who we are as the keymaker. I'm turning doors, I'm creating uh pathways, uh, gateways, access to where we're supposed to be, and we won't be limited by somebody else's restrictions or thought of us. Family, always good when you're here with us. More to come. Keep it locked, follow us on the socials, FFBC Podcast on the socials. Uh, more information about where you can get this project with Jafira. Where can we get it from?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:39

Is it on the so on outlets? It will be wherever music is sold, streamed or anything else.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:48

Yeah, on the 24 hours. We out, we love y'all. Indeed.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:53

Do it take great minds, great minds, we're still waiting for screaming, baby.